If you could predict death: 2013 edition

predict death

I do a fair amount of what I call “repair readings” – readings for people who have been told things by other astrologers that are upsetting and sometimes ridiculous.  Like the time a client was told that at a certain time she would meet someone and it would be the only opportunity she would ever have to find her soulmate. Or when an astrology told a client that her daughter would die on a certain date.

In 2008 I wrote a post “If you could predict death, would you?”  The subject has come up again because of a discussion on a Facebook group in which I participate and since 2008 there is more information available on the subject out on the web.

The whole idea of predicting death is based on the idea that the time of death is fated – that it is set in stone and can’t be changed.  This concept in itself is a huge point of argument among astrologers.  I personally believe that our family of origin, our astrological chart, and the timing of the planetary cycles that affect us are all fated, but that at an early age we begin to make choices that affect the rest of our lives.

When I was with my mother in the last months of her life I witnessed something else that was pretty amazing – when she was near the moment of death she suddenly decided that she wanted to go to the hospital.  She was quite insistent about it and the ambulance was called, and she lived another three months.  The hospice nurse told me that this is quite common – they speak about it as a “surge of energy” that lasts for a few days or a few weeks.  My mother had a very strong will, and she was determined not to die.  And she didn’t, until she was able to return home.  At that point she died within 36 hours.  I believe that she was then able to relax and let go.

My point is that it appeared to me that she had some choice as to the moment of death.  You hear stories about people who remain alive waiting for family members to arrive.  Or until after Christmas.  All of these events point away from the idea that the moment of death is fated.

Sometimes there are events that DO appear to be fated.  An acquaintance of mine was walking with a friend at 6:30 in the morning last week and was hit by a drunk driver and killed.  Certainly that experience had nothing to do with choice.  I did examine her chart and there were clearly stressful aspects on that day but nothing that would lead me to suggest death.

Modern astrology has no techniques for predicting death and indeed, the idea of predicting death goes against everything most modern astrologers believe in which is empowerment of the client.  Medieval and Hellenistic astrology as well as Vedic, all of which are more based in the idea of fate, do possess techniques for predicting death.  One well known astrologer, Richard Houck, wrote an entire book about it called the “Astrology of Death” – however, he was unable to accurately predict his own.  Using his own techniques he arrived at a date of 2031 for his demise – in fact he died of cancer in 2001.

Which brings me to the point – even if you could predict death, why would you?  How is that helpful?  Saturn in his role of Kronos the time keeper has already told us that our lives are fleeting – that time is passing.  We already know that death is coming – we do not need to know when that moment will arrive.  At every moment we have the opportunity to make choices to enhance our lives and those of our loved ones and our communities, and in my mind that is the most important thing that astrology can do for us.

 

By | 2018-01-15T17:31:21+00:00 July 19th, 2013|Death, Fate|7 Comments

7 Comments

  1. cimbalok July 19, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Excellent post, and, as my late, great voice teacher used to say, it agrees with me. It makes sense for both astrology and Tarot. So good I shared it on my page. Thanks, Lynn!

  2. kln July 19, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    I was taking astrology lessons years ago and one of the class members asked if our teacher could tell her when her mother was going to die. The teacher didn’t miss a beat and said “well why don’t you pick out a date?” and that shut her up. My teacher went on to explain that astrology does not work that way and to pick a “death date” was very unprofessional.

  3. Maureen July 19, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    I agree…excellent post. I’ve come to believe that we also have “windows of opportunity” for passing. That when they come we can then make the choice to stay or go. And that could have been the case with the friend of your acquaintance. About 2 years ago I had a strong sense of this for myself w/major hard aspects involving pluto and my 4th house. It felt like that if I wanted to, I could go. Knowing that, I made a conscious decision to stay on. A similar situation happened when I was around 18. Now I feel like the next window of opportunity is a long ways off…of course there are no guarantees 🙂

  4. Nancy Vincent July 19, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I’m with you, Lynn, I think one of the great powers we have in our lives is the power of choice. And death, we know, will come, but I don’t want to know when. Your story about your mother’s death really rang true to me & gave me chills for some reason, maybe because my own mother is in the hospital. Anyway, thank you for this post, it was very interesting!

  5. Lisa Moeller July 19, 2013 at 11:45 pm

    Really excellent post, thank you!

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      Thanks Lisa!

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