Musings on the death of Osama bin Laden

death of osama bin ladenAlthough March 10 1957 is commonly given as the date of birth for Osama bin Laden, This has not been certain enough for astrologers to rely on. While several sources, including an interview with bin Laden himself, have used the date of March 10, 1957 the US State Department records for some reason used July 30, 1957. For this reason, astrologers have not had a date of birth, much less a time, that was reliable enough to create a chart that was anything but speculative. According to Astrodatabank, an astrologer in Brussels named William de Rijke had a friend at Interpol who saw a copy of bin Laden’s birth records with a time of 10:58 am.  But this sounds fishy to me since they didn’t keep any kind of birth records in Saudi Arabia until the late 1950s, much less one with an accurate birth time. Astrologer Claire France Perez is quoted at Astrodatabank:

“I had acquired information from a Muslim historian, (on the Internet) who said bin Laden was born 3rd month, 10th day of the Muslim calendar year 1377. The FBI lists his DOB as March 10, 1957–the third month and tenth day of our calendar year–incorrectly transposing the Islamic days and months for ours, getting the year correctly. The March 10 1957 date confirms that the 3rd month and 10th day are what we are looking for.”

So I am reluctant to use this data as a chart for bin Laden. I am frankly not so sure that bin Laden hasn’t been dead for years.  Osama bin Laden was very much a public figure and seemed to relish making videos in which he thumbed his nose at the US after al Qaeda bombings, but those videos were never seen after 2001.  In his last video from December 27, 2001 he was frail and . Unauthenticated videos and audio tapes with very different speaking patterns and context s were released, but these were not consistent with his earlier communications. In July 2002 Amir Taheri of the New York Times wrote:

Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan’s president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama’s gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama’s ghost alive or because they have no means of communication. With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?

Which mirrors my sentiments exactly.  I just can’t imagine that bin Laden would be living quietly in a compound in Pakistan with his family.  Over the years multiple news sources reported that bin Laden was “probably dead” including a and a . So what really happened in Abbottabad?  And why was the body rushed away from the scene and dumped in the ocean just hours after the event?  There are more unanswered questions than answers right now. Getting back to astrology, the major planetary aspect that appears to have been at work here is the opposition of transiting Mars and Jupiter to the US natal Mars.  We have been talking here at AM about the strong fiery influence of this conjunction of Mars to Jupiter in Aries over the past few weeks.  Mars inspires us to action and to aggression, and Jupiter gives us confidence and optimism so the two together, especially in Aries which is Mars’s sign, creates an environment that facilitates aggressive behavior of all kinds. Because the conjunction opposes Mars in the progressed chart of the US, it activated the warrior dynamic of the country and stimulated a burst of targeted military action. Interestingly enough, transiting Mars and Jupiter are now exactly opposite progressed Mars in the chart of Barack Obama.  So the Mars/Jupiter conjunction first activated the US chart, and now activating Obama’s chart, synchronizing his own warrior nature and symbolically aligning it with the military goals of the US.

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By | 2011-05-04T11:13:01+00:00 May 4th, 2011|Politics|9 Comments


  1. luana May 5, 2011 at 10:51 am

    I share many of your thoughts on this, Lynn. I fear we’re being set up for another big “terrorist” event with the intent of making us “sheeple” all the more scared and compliant.

  2. Kami May 5, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    It’s not that I don’t believe that the US government would never lie to us, but I have a hard time believing they would tell a lie that huge and think they’d actually get away with it for long. Not in this day and age. That would be quite a conspiracy to have so many people involved in. I’m sure the truth will come out one way or the other. Personally, I believe we have been told the truth.
    I’m not a “sheeple” btw.

  3. MK May 5, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    It’s hard to believe they are lying about it. What would be the point? I can’t see anything Obama, Gates or any that team would have to gain by lying.

  4. ScorpioX3 May 5, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Interesting post, Lynn. A few thoughts:

    — One can’t help but wonder how one man could elude for almost 10 years the most highly-skilled intelligence network (CIA, Interpol, etc) in the world. It didn’t take very long to find Saddam Hussein, did it?
    — OBL suffered from a life-threatening kidney disease. He may have chosen to hide out in the inhospitable mountain caves of Afghanistan for a while, but 10 years?
    — If the terrorist mastermind has indeed been dead for years, Pakistan – not the US – has pulled off the biggest con in modern history. It’s long been said that Pakistan is a bigger threat to Western stability than Iraq or Afghanistan. Certainly it had everything to gain – billions of dollars in American aid to “fight the war on terrorism – by allowing the world to continue to believe OBL was still among the living.
    — If the U.S. knew anything, I’d like to believe it didn’t know until recently, and the mission to “kill” (an unarmed) Bin Laden and then throw his “body” into the sea was the only way the powers that be could put an end to the War on Terror they had just recently declared over. Still …

    Just saying.

    • May 9, 2011 at 6:40 am

      Well, one thing to remember is that George W Bush had all of the binLadens flown out of the country in a private plane days after 9-11, when no other planes were running. And that it didn’t take long for him to give up on the hunt, saying “I really don’t care that much about it any more.” I can imagine an agreement being made that would keep OBL safe in Pakistan if he stayed out of trouble. But of course it’s just imagination and speculation. It will be interesting to see what OBL’s wives say when those interviews come out. I read a report that said that al Zawahiri and OBL parted ways when OBL ran out of money.

      I believe that when governments lie it’s not a big lie that everyone knows about, a massive conspiracy. The lies splinter into small pieces which make it easier to hide.

      @luana, no need to fear anything because remember there are greater powers at work. The most important thing must always be our personal experience of growth and wisdom – and to help our communities where we can.

  5. ScorpioX3 May 5, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Correction: It’s reported that OBL may have lived in Abbottabad for the past 6 years – so he hasn’t been in a cave for 10. Still …

  6. xbebe May 6, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Lynn – Amir Taheri, is not, as quoted, a reporter with the New York Times. Unless it’s a different Amir Taheri, the one you quoted is likely the Amir Taheri who is an author from Iran and occasional columnist for the New York Post. Very different from an actual reporter.


  7. Beth May 7, 2011 at 9:27 am

    A thoughtful, very interesting article from the Washington Post, busting 5 common myths about Bin Laden. Here’s the link:

  8. Mikah May 8, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Osama’s birth “3rd month, 10th day of the Muslim calendar year 1377”. That equals to Saturday 5 October 1957. Osama a Libran? In short: Good complexion, Soft-spoken, mild-mannered in demeanor, vain man,(rumoured) kidney problems, fighting for justice (for Muslims in Middle East against superpower, USSR & USA oppression).

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